We, the PEOPLE!!

Remember the stupid story about Barack Obama having a stolen social security number?  It was incredibly impossible. No one should have believed such a moronic thing.  But people who are too stupid, too lazy or too learning-impaired to understand the most basic lessons of logic and common sense believed it and circulated it around the internet.  It inspired the June 13th, 2012  We, the PEOPLE!! article entitled “Political Hoaxes and the Idiots That Believe Them” which you can read HERE.  And it included all the embedded links to references and sources that anyone could click to see for themselves.  Credibility, after all, is important to thinking people.

Not one month later, ANOTHER malicious attack email being circulated by these same folks was sent to me.  It reads:

“My right wing friends   spreading fear, as always…

Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 4:32 PM
Subject: Fwd: DO YOU HAVE A GUN IN THE HOUSE? KNOW HOW TO ANSWER.

“When I had my gangrene gallbladder taken out and spent 10 days in the hospital for what should have been an overnight stay the insurance company kicked me out. I had home nurse visits for two weeks and was asked if I had guns in the house. I respond that if I did I would not tell them. So the below has some merit.

“FYI, I am passing this along… there are comments from two other people I have also been asked if we keep guns in the house. The nurse just kinda slipped it in along with all the other regular questions. I told her I refused to answer because it was against the law to ask.

 Everyone, whether you have guns or not, should give a neutral answer so they have no idea who does and who doesn’t. My doctor asked me if I had guns in my house and also if any were loaded. I, of course, answered yes to both questions. Then he asked why I kept a loaded gun close to my bed. I answered that my son, who is a certified gun instructor and also works for Homeland Security, advised me that an unloaded, locked up gun is no protection against criminal attack.

The Government now requires these questions be asked of people on Medicare, and probably everyone else.

 Just passing this along for your information: I had to visit a doctor other than my regular doctor when my doctor was on vacation.. One of the questions on the form I had to fill out was: Do you have any guns in your house?? My answer was None of your damn business!!

So it is out there! It is either an insurance issue or government intervention. Either way, it is out there and the second the government gets into your medical records (as they want to under Obamacare) it will become a major issue and will ultimately result in lock and load!!

Please pass this on to all the other retired guys and gun owners… Thanks. 

From a Vietnam Vet and retired Police Officer: I had a doctors appointment at the local VA clinic yesterday and found out something very interesting that I would like to pass along. While going through triage before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions: 1. Did I feel stressed? 2. Did I feel threatened? 3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone?

 The nurse then informed me that if I had answered yes to any of the questions I would have lost my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security.

Looks like they are going after the vets first. Other gun people like retired law enforcement will probably be next. Then when they go after the civilians, what argument will they have? Be forewarned and be aware. The Obama administration has gone on record as considering veterans and gun owners potential terrorists. Whether you are a gun owner, veteran or not, YOU’VE BEEN WARNED !

 ”If you know veterans and gun owners, please pass this on to them. Be very cautious about what you say and to whom.

 ”They are coming for us, so unless you’re an ostrich, do not stick your head in the sand……….”

Here’s the response sent:

“This is utter BULLSHIT.  It was generated by folks in the NRA to bolster the attacks against the US attorney general Eric Holder so that they could generate a non-existent issue to galvanize gun owners and conservatives to vote, and to swing independents.

“It is no different from the rumors they spread during the last election in 2008, that Obama would come after guns and ammo if elected.  Their efforts only succeeded in causing a run on ammo in gun stores that resulted in a shortage of ammo that took six months to rectify.

“For some reason that defies explanation, many people will believe the unbelievable and unprovable and, most importantly, illogical…

“Here’s just some of what’s wrong with the message from this lunatic woman:

“1. “When I had my gangrene gallbladder taken out and spent 10 days in the hospital for what should have been an overnight stay the insurance company kicked me out”. Someone with a gangrene gall bladder probably is very close to death, and removal of such a thing would require a minimum of 10 days just to stabilize infection. Why would she claim it was supposed to be only an overnight stay?  Furthermore, insurance companies don’t kick people out of hospitals. They might not pay past a point but that would be determined on a case by case basis by the doctor’s reports and hospital reports.

“2.  She says “The Government now requires these questions be asked of people on Medicare, and probably everyone else.” Wait a minute! She earlier said she was dealing with an insurance company. Since Medicare provides for all hospitalization coverage, how did her “insurance company” kick her out?

“3.  Re: #2 above, the government, which presumably is the executive branch headed by Obama, does not have the authority to make laws. Congress passes laws and the president signs them or vetoes them. A federal government agency can make regulations, but first they must publish a Notice of Proposed Rule-making in the Federal Register for a minimum of 60 days and invite comments. The NRA would have jumped all over that, and done so VERY publicly.

“4.  In not ONE CASE is there a name or a web address to verify a single allegation.  It’s just a bunch of premeditated bullshit, including the reference to Obamacare (“wants to get into your medical records”). Obamacare has NO provision to roll back the HIPAA laws regarding medical privacy protection, which you can read HERE.

“And FINALLY!!!… snopes.com, which investigates these rumors, has declared this FALSE!!!!  You can check it out for yourself HERE, but for your idiot right wingnut conservative friends, if you print this out, here’s the actual web site: http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/medicare.asp

“Hope this settles the issue. I’m interested to hear the reaction you get….And PLEASE feel free to tell them to contact me if they want to fight against truth and logic.  ”

Every time these idiots spout their garbage and this blog becomes aware of it, these folks are going to be embarrassed with those nasty  and stubborn little things called facts.  And everyone on the entire email header of the message is going to see how dumb all the re-emailers are.

It should be a lot of fun. 

 

This is utter BULLSHIT.  it was generated by folks in the NRA to bolster the attacks on the US attorney general Eric Holder so that they could generate a non-existent issue to galvanize gun owners and conservative to vote and to swing independents.

It is no different from the rumors they spread during the last election in 2008, that Obama would come after guns and ammo if elected.  Their effort only succeeded in causing a run run on ammo in gun stores that took six months to rectify.

For some reason that defies explanation, many people will believe the unbelievable and unprovable and, most importantly, illogical  I recently wrote a blog about that entitled “Political Hoaxes and the Idiots That Believe them”, which you can read HERE.  This is exactly the same bullshit.

Here’s just some of what’s wrong with the message from this lunatic woman:

1.  “When I had my gangrene gallbladder taken out and spent 10 days in the hospital for what should have been an overnight stay the insurance company kicked me out”.  Someone with a gangrene gall bladder probably is very close to death, and removal of such a thing would require a minimum of 10 days just to stablize infection.  Why would she claim it was supposed to be only an overnight stay?  Furthermore, insurance companies don’t kick people out of hospitals.  They might not pay past a point but that would be determined on a case by case basis by the doctor’s reports and hospital reports.

2.  She says “The Government now requires these questions be asked of people on Medicare, and probably everyone else.”  Wait a minute!  She ear;ier said she was dealing with an insurance company.  Since Medicare provides for all hospitalization coverage, how did her “insurance company” kick her out?

3.  Re: #2 above, the government, which presumably is the executive branch headed by Obama, does not the authority to make laws.  Congress passes laws and the president signs them or vetoes them.  A federal government agency can make regulations, but first they must publish a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking in the Federal Register for a minimum of 60 days and invite comments.  The NRA would have jumped all over that, and done so VERY publicly.

4.  In not ONE CASE is there a name or a web address to verify a single allegation.  it s just a bunch of premeditated bullshit, including the reference to Obamacare (wants to get into your medical records).  Obamacare has NO proviision to roll back the HIPAA laws regarding medical privacy protection, which you can read HERE.

And FINALLY!!!…  snopes.com, which investigates these rumors, has declared this FALSE!!!!  You can check it out for yourself HERE, but for your idiot right wingnut conservative friends, if you print this out, here’s the actual web site:  http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/medicare.asp

Hope this settles the issue.  I’m interested to here the reaction you get.  And feel free to tell them to contact me if they want to fight against truth and logic. 

All the best, Howie

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